uuh. which system? GNU cat will always read+write and doesn't attempt any optimisation, busybox 1.30.1 cat uses sendfile(count=16M) which doesn't reflink (but coaxing voreutils cat to use copy_file_range() did, so?)
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
i.e. (1), (2); this holds for a file both smaller and bigger than 16M, as well as catting two files together, where copy_file_range() seems to share all blocks which is pretty fucking magic, too me. im just wondering where you saw that behaviour?
didn't sign up to getting bugzilla bug forwards when I posted mildly broken code to elfutils!!
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
oh, my testbed is bullseye @ 8.32; good to see the most common implementation entering the 21st century (given that they're c_f_r()ing, are they also splice()ing now? that's the optimisation MVP for 96%™ of cat uses, /and/ it makes useless cats free, freer still w/F_SETPIPE_SZ)
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
((well, where "free" is defined in terms of bandwidth; you still pay scheduler overhead of 30% (closer to 70% for default-sized pipes) at full tilt but you're not losing any speed, as measured in https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/13133#issuecomment-1047148572)); thanks for checking!
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
hm, that's def. odd; I'd be interested in getting my hands on it, as a compat test-case, if you still have it around and can publish it :0 (if not the latter, `pv -q` is mostly-equivalent to a cat-with-splice())
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
hm. according to strace of curl 7.21.7-3 (uploaded 2011-09-17), compared to that of current curl, the only difference I really see is that current curl signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_IGN)s and the old one doesn't? but I haven't been able to replicate the behaviour in the comment with either
Replying to @gray_dot_bmp
(well, and current curl waits for read(0, "", 4096) = 0 /twice/, whereas the old one terminates on the first read(0, "", 1024) = 0; if I had to guess I'd say it's probably this + write(1, "", 0) on the writer side maybe? but.)
Replying to @greenTetra_
real NŻT diet believers are ALWAYS saying this
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
:0 https://sourceware.org/pipermail/elfutils-devel/2022q2/005000.html
Replying to @ddd1ms, @OwariDa and @x0rz
motherfucker i photoshopped that shit. that's my goddamn post. bleeding blue-check piece of shit. go o hell https://twitter.com/nabijaczleweli/status/1443628337436545028
Replying to @ddd1ms, @OwariDa and @x0rz
OP: also stolen. shut the fuck up. https://twitter.com/agathe_da/status/1444043348428328962
RT @nabijaczleweli: @ddd1ms @OwariDa @x0rz motherfucker i photoshopped that shit. that's my goddamn post. bleeding blue-check piece of shit…
most tweeters also don't know that blue-check = open season. go o hell
Replying to @ddd1ms, @OwariDa and @x0rz
at least the OP has the basic decency to label that shit. the vaguest amount of transformative "effort". eat chit.
speaking of "transformative" – consider this cake :)
Replying to @greenTetra_ and @FunnyTerro
call that shit Flight 11
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i might actually be one of the best to ever do it
https://salsa.debian.org/glibc-team/glibc/-/merge_requests/6, what an incredible tale of a source+compiled versions updated simultaneously exactly once, a bug closed on the addition of a documented option in the source, an obsolete Xr removed directly from the compiled version, and /never actually regenerated/
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
also: a /very/ bad parallel make (but one which still saturates 500 jobs across 24 CPUs well enough so): https://salsa.debian.org/glibc-team/glibc/-/merge_requests/7
bandcamp frigay. https://nabijaczleweli.bandcamp.com/album/imperfexions
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
it is fun to gameing. many are saying this!
thank. s
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
from the makers of
>It is anticipated that manufacturers will not issue the same "serial number" to more than one physical machine
>SI_HW_{PROVIDER,SERIAL} aren't guaranteed to be unique across all vendor's SVR4 implementations and could change over the lifetime of a given system
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
big fan of gethostid([23]); not only is it "a 32-bit identifier intended to be unique among all UNIX systems in existence." but also "This is normally an Internet address for the local machine."
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
which seemed like a good idea in 4.3BSD and stopped in 4.4BSD. because the Internet address for the local machine is 127.0.1.1 (most linux libcs). or 0 (musl). or you get it from an on-board ROM (/sun*). or the ROM of an optional plug-in card (NetBSD/amiga drbcc(4)). or 0 (/*)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
or the 4 most significant bytes of the MD5(!) sum of the string representation of the hostuuid. which you inherit from the bootloader, which gets it from the SMBIOS. or, if you, don't, you sleep 2 in early init and uuidgen(1) > /etc/hostid (FreeBSD)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
POSIX gives up and says
> This volume of POSIX.1-2017 does not define the domain in which the return value is unique.
just. love that for all of us. the worst API.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
Solaris (well, the illumos gate), of course, on x86, reads /etc/hostid, with a series of string kobjs, the last of which counts, which is derot-48ed, which is value (i.e. strtoull(base=0) + ~ handling)-decoded, unless it's HW_INVALID_HOSTID ((u32)-1);
Replying to @implring
OpenZFS/Linux doesn't actually use the libc hostid mechanisms for this reason precisely and uses zgenhostid(8) to write into /etc/hostid (which, by accident, means hostid(1) and gethostid(3)/glibc return a sensible value, but they are otherwise entirely unrelated)
Replying to @implring
OpenZFS/kFreeBSD does use the system hostid but that's derived from the uuid and actually reasonably unique. as does Solaris ZFS (which is an issue because that hostid sucks unless you're on SPARC). but even then it's only for MMP(?)
Replying to @implring
but I'm not aware of anything else, on a normal system, using it. well, besides like srand()ing in a lot of places, pppd, and ndmp on Solaris, huntd(6) on NetBSD, hastd(8) on FreeBSD, or OpenBSM, BSNMP (FreeBSD contrib)
Replying to @implring
thankfully, most applications that need host distinxions just generate an ID themselves (or use /e/m-id, which is just as good)
Replying to @implring
apparently zgenhostid is new in 0.7.0; previously genhostid(1) was recommended, which is a CentOSism, and the current places that use it for other purposes manually cut/echo \xed hostid(1) output (which, !!!, what da hell)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
if no /etc/hostid, then the base kernel loads the misc/sysinit module, reads hw_serial, if it got updated, then unloads it; or, if SMBIOS is available and the UUID isn't known-bad it's XOR-massaged [1], otherwise it's bits 0-17,20,21 of the clock
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
and on sun4 it's the same as NetBSD/SPARC
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
but the insanest thing about this is that.. misc/sysinit doesn't exist. it was removed in 226889a (Sun Sep 28 19:05:31 2008 -0700), and this is the entire thing. yes, that's _bdhs34 and _hs1107 extern. those are defined in x86/boot, latter=hw_serial, former is unused
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
(make that x86/startup)
/both are still defined/. also, AFAICT this generates a constant? the message is "Replace sysinit ELF file with simpler mechanism on X86 boxes (fix unref)", but it. just removes the module, it's all-minus
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
all of this appeared fully-formed at OpenSolaris Launch, the module got yote in 2008, everything else is still in place for it, and every x86 boot w/o /etc/hostid still tries to load a non-existent module
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
unrelatedly worryingly, this is from an official tribblix installer. which itself has that same /etc/hostid. there's also a /lib/svc/method/svc-hostid which is supposed to persist the generated hostid(1) into /etc/hostid.. but only if it doesn't already exist. so this is poisoned
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i removed /etc/hostid and rebooted. it got regenerated. it's identical. quality stuff.
rebooted last night for new kernel. this is the real root. what the fuck
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i guess a more poingnant question would be "why is systemd trying to isolate (start?) http://initrd.target on the real root"
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
+ the 18-minute pool import really isn't helping my iteration times
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
of course, this requires asking "why the fuck is http://default.target http://initrd.target", and I don't fucking know. may be able to correlate Apr 28 with something, but not before my MX comes up, which 18 minutes import
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
predictably, yes, linking http://default.target -> http://graphical.target like default again does fix it
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
the only vaguely relevant thing i can see is that that's when I posted a dracut PR so I would've tested dracut-install stand-alone and built initrds with it? but how could that possibly've leaked is beyond me
Replying to @greenTetra_
dentist
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
oh btw fun moment: solaris stores the hostid as char hw_serial[11]; which is a decimal string, right. /every single user/ does strtoul() on it (and every single writer either sprintf("%u")s or, in two cases, one of which is the now-removed misc/sysinit, hand-rolls an equivalent
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
/but/ sysinfo(SI_HW_SERIAL) (the gethostid(3) back-end) returns a NUL-terminated string! great!
except each zone can have its own hostid. so in the /only/ optimisable path it gets sprintf("%u", strtoul())ed once more.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/pull/82
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
ah, yes, I forgot why I'd decided against posting to illumos before.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
holy shit it landed. rejoice https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/13316#event-6584554315
Replying to @crdudeyoutube
he's gameing?? what the hell?
Replying to @greenTetra_
the guy in question
1983 was a wild fucking time dude
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i mean, it's a shockingly competent implementation of what is essentially PGP mail but like 20 years(?) before that took off
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
normal day in Current Year to be building k4.2BSD with the "4.2BSD driver for DEC Deuna Ethernet board" <145@green.UUCP> patch
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
if the VAX was multiprocessor and matched my host im pretty sure you could build this kernel in like 3-6 seconds
Replying to @AnnatarTheMaia, @alanc and @opensolaris
it's already saved to /etc/hostid by svc-hostid: https://twitter.com/nabijaczleweli/status/1523390575034077185
>Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:11:35 -0400
> If I believe archive.org, the following URL should have been used
> a very long time ago:
> rarp.8 itself says it's useless since Linux "2.3",
> which EOLed over a decade ago
normal bug to post on in 2022; https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=416695
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
after reinstalling after a head crash (that's the fabled FFS stability (but it also made network work first try)), and an hour diagnosing SMTP mail (the sendmail.cf preset in the distribution doesn't handle net=tcp), I've managed to route mail out of 4.2BSD into the real world
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
(well, I say head crash, I'm assuming it's actually the documented update(8) failure mode); going by the timestamps on various posts, that's likely the first time since either 2017 (http://plover.net/~agarvin/4.2bsd.html, no follow-up) or 2009 (https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.2_BSD_on_SIMH)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
top 10 heated gaming moments
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
turns out -q>0 breaks -bd SMTP daemonisation(? in that it ECONNREFUSEDs 25); when run w/o -q it Just Accepts SMTP mail.. but it's just SMTP. postfix eats shit because it expects (requires?) ESMTP. love the "please post to eric if you found a fuckup :)"
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
thats a lie, I had passed -bd -bs -q10m, the default -bd -q1h is correct and processes both queues and smtp
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
even with smtp_always_send_ehlo = no postfix fails to deliver with
> timed out while receiving the initial server greeting
presumably because the greeting is
42b d.ARPA Sendmail 4.12/4.7 ready at Fri, 13 May 83 09:53:48 pdt
and doesn't start with a 220 :v
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
my hands are shaking, I'm still getting headshots, &c., &c.
walk toward the light/then touch the darkness within me/is this anything
Replying to @NewBeamu and @eatijr
oh, 100%. small mushroom guy = you can bread it; so long as it's not actually toxic to eat after cooking you'll be fine, just won't get as big of a rise as a commercial yeasts
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
they kinda went off when they came up with safety flannels ngl
aaaaaaaaaaa https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/13459#issuecomment-1126824805
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
Automake moment: when if 0; SUBDIRS = a, both program sources and EXTRA_DIST is processed in a/; when if 0; include a/Makefile.am only program sources are processed. there's no way to force it to be otherwise.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
autoreconf specifically, you get that in Makefile.in
Replying to @eatijr
:)
would you consider emoticons with noses, as in :-),
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
..of course. can't blame the guy, or anyone else for not picking it up since 2020, but
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
https://bugs.debian.org/1011024
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
hehe https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/13447/files?file-filters[]=.sh
Replying to @eatijr
you write data at that offset and the space after the last data segment and the new offset is a hole? am i missing something?
Replying to @eatijr
lseek(2):
>allows the file offset to be set beyond the end of the file (but this does not change the size of the file). If data is later written at this point, subsequent reads of the data in the gap (a "hole") return null bytes ('\0') until data is actually written into the gap
Replying to @eatijr
you're guaranteed this from at least V7 (where seek became lseek), which says:
> Seeking far beyond the end of a file, then writing, creates a gap or `hole', which occupies no physical space and reads as zeros.
Replying to @eatijr
hm. it probably should, considering it only mentions lseek(2) in passing
Replying to @eatijr
pre-V7 seek(II) (V1 pictured) doesn't mention this, but all the kernels with source extant (V3+) do extend the file to the offset
Replying to @eatijr
didn't expect to find out today that PDP-11 assembly is pretty okay to write, actually, but: this also holds on V1 (via unix72) (unfortunately, od(I) does full blocks, and head(I) is a BSDism), so it's guaranteed, like, forever
Replying to @eatijr
(forgot this also has (transcribed) source; kinda wild that even V1 has sparse files (I'm pretty sure, going by this?))
RT @nabijaczleweli: @eatijr didn't expect to find out today that PDP-11 assembly is pretty okay to write, actually, but: this also holds on…
Replying to @eatijr
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/20220516195143.kry7o63pmjyiyhpk@tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz/T/#u
Former @nabijaczleweli.xyz DKIM keys now published at https://mail.nabijaczleweli.xyz/
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
ACLs are truly a gift from the gods; im literally just pointing that at /etc/dkimkeys w/g:www-data:r-x and g:www-data:r-- for the now-public keys
Replying to @greenTetra_
hmm. that's an FPGA; im not sure what it is, im pretty sure it is /not/ a graphics card
Replying to @greenTetra_
ADV7171KSU is a set-top video encoder. the video holes aren't directional, so I'm assuming, naively, that this takes some(?) video in, processes it in a CPU-configurable way, and shits it out w/FX added
Replying to @greenTetra_
this is a certified computing moment
crashing the dash 0.5.7 substitution parser. normal day. http://build.zfsonlinux.org/builders/Debian%208%20ppc64%20%28BUILD%29/builds/45832/steps/shell_2/logs/configure
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
fix.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
they put the Longbow back in ground loot and I'm kinda shredding again
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i just need someone else to pick up a gun they can land shots with past point-blank and shoot back with me. i cant be the only one returning fire at 120m.
heres a fun thought experiment: what licence are the non-AT&T parts of 4.2BSD under
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
my best guess is The Berkeley software License Agreement, because 4.3BSD points at it, but you could only enter that if you paid THE REGENTS 1000$, so?
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
in contrast to the AT&T parts which were released under 4-clause BSD by Caldera ("Dear UNIX® enthusiasts,", 2002), which is hilarious to consider
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
waa, i just want to include 4.2BSD hostid.1 verbatim; that shit is 40 years old
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
38, sorry; but unless THE REGENTS renewed it, it expired after 28 years?
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
automatic HOW FUCKING LONG COPYRIGHT TERM?
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
the american empire murders its citizens before something they scribbled as toddlers expires. love that for me.
(a) "we thank [whales] for providing endless hours of play-testing […] we hope their significant others can forgive them"
(b) "there were some bugs of 4.2BSD [...], will crash your system if those haven't been fixed"
hunt(6), 1986. gamedev ain't changed a bit.
on this site we, the "posters"'re always "posting". but never preing. what's up with that.
bowling is the only case where being struck is preferable to being spared 🧐
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
they are gameing :0
..drip?
im out of my three daily vetusware downloads but afaict the only way i can donate is with bitcoin and i don't wanna be doing that
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
two solarises and six teletypes deep into writing this chunk of hostid.1. I'd gladly pay the twenty five silver american dollars to not wait another 3.2h; i would also love a m68k sunos for comparison but that straight-up doesn't exist at all i think
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
is this gacha
Replying to @__phantomderp
i would simply port the standard to groff -mom. that was a whole half-day of fun to use for the first time to write N2878, there's a lot more enjoyment to be had probably
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
hm, just made the staggering discovery that the coreutils hostid(1) %08x output format is compatible with SunOS 4 (but not any previous Berkeley implementation or SysVr4)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
and the SysVr4 compat package libucb.a (ucblibc) gethostid(3) has a stray debug printf() in it too
Replying to @MrDOS
a SunOS port to m86k that has a hw_serial/gethostid(), so most likely 4.2BSD-derived SunOS 1/2
Replying to @MrDOS
:0 WinWorld has SunOS 2 tapes, cheers
hm
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
also very cute that all the tapes, before and after archive files, have a single 512-byte-block file that says "Copyright (c) 1985 by Sun Microsystems, Inc."
Replying to @MrDOS
jah bless, with bitsavers sunos1 i have a complete 150-word imagus now!! thanks :0
Replying to @MrDOS
(as you predicted: none of them include source, of course, but all of them include manuals, and thanks to the Amazing a.out layout, the format strings are just after the SCCS ID for hostid.c)
what the hell? they poetterung my SunOS?
Replying to @yurirando
królestwo obojga narodów type beat
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
this is 100% part of the distribution libucb.a btw (bitsavers SysVr4 386 floppy pictured)! not just whatever fucked up my usual vetusware source dump is
ayo what the hell grey brought home a full-size pigeon? so cool :0
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
lmfao this dates back to the first SysVr4 Solaris (although on i386/ia64 hw_serial is supposed to be set by the bootloader from /etc/bootrc, but there doesn't .. seem to be? a property for it?)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
and, yes, sysinit.c is, save for some whitespace and having been split into two files at some point, literally the same file as got removed from Illumos
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
which is equally wild to me because it literally still generates "0". it's a loadable module that appears to do magic that's /literally/ equivalent to not being there because param.c initialises hw_serial to "0" as well.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
this is, if you pardon my french, s = constant; if ((s = big positive constant) <= 0) /*whatever*/; if (s == different constant) /*whatever*/ else s = 0; sprintf(_hs1107, "%d", s); t[0] is unused. what's the point! just imagine having SunOS SCCS dumps
the u.s. constitution and its amendments have been a disaster for the human race
Replying to @NireBryce
i mean, groff colour support is ass (and similarly nonexistent in heirloom and mandoc), but like, and this is a genuine question, not a gotcha or whatever, what would you use colours for in a manual, that you can't do with 8-font mdoc (that decays to 4 fonts naturally)?
Replying to @NireBryce
crosslinks are, like, a very good point, but the tty output devices don't really support richtext that to run stuff if you click (except Plan 9(?), but that also doesn't have mdoc so you'd be rewriting all manuals); you could do it when outputting Xr to postscript? that'd be nice
Replying to @NireBryce
(similarly, mandoc already does that for -Thtml and has provisions for managing local links for intra-"package", let's call it, manuals vs. links to outside ones (I'm naively assuming so does groff, but groff -Thtml output is ass), and it works very well: https://srhtcdn.githack.com/~nabijaczleweli/voreutils/blob/4ff2e70c635a7cc974c0fb8e5b1116d89798997e/man1/link.1.html#SEE_ALSO)
Replying to @NireBryce
oh, def., teletype output is not the be-all end-all at all, but hm, when I do log in from a phone and need to read a manual I don't have issues navigating my usual ^Zman whatever^Zman the-second-thing^Zfg 3 flow (but not everyone is a job control fiend I guess)
Replying to @NireBryce
OTOH, you mentioned w3mman which seems to be pretty much perfect? It manages to correctly process all tty fonts and handles crossrefs (and file paths, if they exist on the system, but curiously not actual URLs), or I may be missing the point entirely (likely)?
Replying to @__phantomderp
many are saying this! https://twitter.com/nabijaczleweli/status/1529158187852644354
potential daikon moment :0
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
(i.e. 50% this is daikon, 50% this is the other thing that i forgot what; 1.5wk)
Replying to @NireBryce and @auramarua
hm, you got bitten by Linux having SYS_execve and 2 being before 3 in the search path; exec(3), to which all other exec* names resolve to, explains this in excruciating detail (doesn't help exec(3) is barely mentioned); posted a patch: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/20220525193004.ntmvrmvb4msnoscu@tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz/T/#u
Replying to @NireBryce and @auramarua
(now applied, in record time; the next Linux man-pages release will have a paragraph about this directing accidental execve(2) readers to exec(3). thanks for reporting)
Replying to @NireBryce and @auramarua
disagree IMO, the etymology for Syscall 186 doesn't matter, only the interface, ex def. (plus, couldn't come up with a useful one that isn't "V7's libc symbol has an equiv. interface"); /but/ you shouldn't get the Syscall 382 manual when looking for a similarly-named symbol group
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
yo what the hell they put communism in my apex game??
Posix.COM. IBM PC 3.5-inch/720K diskette (plain file). Sun-style QIC-24 cartridge tapes. classic 1991 moment
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
this is what brand loyalty does to a mf!!
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
if you don't like this then you don't like gameing. simple as.
hi. remembered gnu hurd exists. unfortunately so did glibc writers. when authoring [gs]ethostid() implementations for it.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i would like to thank my team in (2) for supporting my endeavours to harass fools at midrange after getting a 350m knock by reviving me like 3 times
just hit a eqn-breaking-tbl groff bug with inline equations. nroff only. ecstatic.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
mandoc is unaffected, because mandoc's response to using more than two features together is "don't. that's awful style.". oh, and it doesn't support any preprocessor or macro package in tbl
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
sorry, "horrible". https://inbox.vuxu.org/mandoc-discuss/20220529001500.gnxuiiawdegcjwy7@tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz/T/#m2a86d554a841828b43b197d4be8b81b4e244649f
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
debbugs got back to me. endżoj: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012078
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
i didnt see the comment before:
> In an attempt to make the hostid less prone to abuse (for license circumvention, etc), we store it in /etc/hostid in rot47 format.
my brother in christ how does that help. you still read it out of /etc/hostid and its 1 tr invocation to [deen]code
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
uuh. what could /possibly/ be the reason for this mask. if it were just the bottom 24 bits then that's fine for precision limit but it has a hole in 20,21?
Replying to @the6p4c
if i were microsoft i would simply forward-port their ULTRIX-era offering
Replying to @the6p4c
microsoft was the biggest AT&T licensee! SunOS 4(? dont quote me on that, but it was one of them) was distributed with microsoft office! just imagine the raking they could do by returning to the market!
lmao uClibc[-ng] gethostid(3), without an explicit /etc/hostid, always returns 0 if getaddrinfo(gethostname()) returns an IPv6 address because in AF_INET6 thats where the always-0 flow information goes
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
conversely, glibc /only/ accepts IPv4 addresses (as a gethostbyname() default), and returns 0 if it doesn't find one, so in their own equally-byzantine ways, they end up doing the same thing
i was gonna do a "haha preprint!" post but twitter gives me 4 images and this is 7 pages (6 full + 3 lines), so funny stats: at 24k this is 1.5x the next-largest page in voreutils, which is df.1, but that has a lot of semantics with a tiny HISTORY (because they got them right)
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
lmao 24k is a /tenth/ of the total corpus b.v.
Replying to @nabijaczleweli
:0 i forgot two pages side-by-each is a Normal thing to do; behold: haha preprint!
Me deforming elastically: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!
Me deforming plastically: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
Replying to @hipsterelectron
remember to like and sub 2 the list if you liked the jpegs! https://sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/voreutils/
Replying to @hipsterelectron
yeah i spent like 3 months straight pumping patches into it a year or two ago and its p okay now imo (with the added bonus of being self-hostable, not being a US defence contractor, and best-in-class CI & git UX (beware though: its drewware))
Replying to @hipsterelectron
I'd say "a fully-documented & standards-conformant UNIX userland, begrudgingly compatible with the GNU system where that wouldn't be insane", but that don't roll of the tongue as well tbf
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oh and also you can operate the bugtracker entirely by mail (including subscriptions, even if you don't have an account), similarly for git repositories/git push options (including creation); (owned and operated by drew devault)
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(which is not an issue in general, but it comes with a Take baseline)
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(as part of that baseline, there's really good instrumentation for patches on all posting/reviewing/management-in-a-list/&c. sides, but no GitHub-style first-class PRs; there was git note support in some manner but it was ripped out because it was unmaintained and an XSS vector)
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sorry, I misremembered, i was thinking of annotations (unrelated to git-notes, just PUTs to add a popup to parts of rendered files); notes are untouched